touch with the rich family. We talked on the telephone. I talked with Joe Rich, the father. Mary Rich was on the first telephone call and then also their son Aaron. And so we got to talking about it and they had the understanding that if there was any fees that was going to be experienced by, if there were going to be any fees, then Ed would take care of that. And they agreed to it and so they had me sending them a contract of some type. So I just put something together very generic and sent it over to them and the contract was signed by Aaron Rich, Joe and Mary Rich. And that's when it all began. And the contract, obviously, I'll see you guys a copy of that because that's going to be very critical in this entire event. But the contract does say, I'll let you read it. This says I can't talk to the media on behalf of the family. So we had that discussion, pretty extensive discussion, and I agree that they, we all agree, I can talk to the media because they know that I talk to the media anyway as a regular, you know, weekly thing on Fox News, but I would not be, but I would not be representing the family. So for example, if I talk about an investigation or that investigation, I'll talk about it, but not speaking on behalf of the family. They made it known that they had a spokesperson, and that was it. So that was the extent of it, folks. And everything began at that point. A guy named Brad Bauman, D-A-U-M-A-N, he is a D-N-C-P-R consultant. Now I don't know him, I've never met him, I've never even spoken there. I mean, number one today from what I hear from various people that he's spreading all kinds of damaging, obviously, and that's his intent, and we get that about me all over the world literally. But that's that's their spokesperson. You know, I started working on behalf of them, trying to identify, you know, like you with any investigation, but especially murder investigation. You want to find out a little bit about the background of the scene, relationships, things like that. Now, I was somewhat aware of this whole business about WikiLeaks, but I'll be honest, I wasn't totally aware of it because I've never really followed that. I was focused solely on finding a murderer. That's all I was focused on. So the political implications of this case, I really wasn't involved with because I wasn't followed, right? But anyway, as I began to talk to, for example, Joe Rich and Mary Rich, they would share with me their thoughts on, you know, relationships that says they have with his girlfriend, some other friends of his, but they thought I should talk to his brother Aaron because him and Aaron was pretty close, pretty tight. So I said, okay, so I set up a call with Aaron and Molly. Molly is Aaron's wife. Molly is also an attorney. So we're talking and they made it clear that in this investigation, no matter what happens, do not talk to anyone about any emails. And now, keep in mind, I wasn't really aware of all this business about my email. And I asked the question, why? I said, you know, why do you not want to talk about your email? And they said, well, because we know his best is not the result of anything dealing with his job. So I said, okay, fair enough, but how do you know his best isn't related to his job? And Aaron, at that point, immediately, in a rough, didn't say it because we're telling you it's not, I've done all the investigations. It's what he said. And I have all of this in the report, just as I know, God, I keep a running, what I call a running resume. So every discussion, I make notes. And I have all of that. And at some point, you'll probably get all of this. But anyway, he made it clear, his death was definitely not the result of email. Well, I'm not sure how you know that, but okay, I won't even think about email. So I started setting up interviews with people who were friends of his, the bar, the bar where he was last seen the night the night he died. I went to that bar. And what was interesting, the first person I talked to, after I talked to Joe and Aaron, my first interview was with a guy named Joe Caponi, who's the manager of the bar that, that Seth was at the night he died before he died. So I wanted to talk to Joe to see if he could tell me a little bit about Aaron, about Seth. Well, when I get there, Joe is like, he says, oh, I was expecting you. Now, I didn't call him to tell him I was coming. I know that's not how I operate as an investigator. I usually just pop in. He says, oh, I was expecting you. I said, you were expecting me? He said, yeah, Aaron just called me. I said, really? He said, yeah, he told me that you were coming. Now, you know, he doesn't want us to talk anything about computers or emails. I said, he said that? He said, yeah, he just told me I can talk to you, but don't say anything about email. I said, well, I'm not just related to his death. He said, no, I can't say anything about email. I'm not trying that off you, strange, but okay. So we talk about relationships and, you know, you've been a nice guy, this guy Joe was, and then I stayed here for about 45 minutes and I leave. The only other person I talked to was Kelsey, well, the one other person was Kelsey, who was the girlfriend of stuff. And the day I met with the first time I talked to her on the telephone, that's the first thing she told me. I knew you were going to be calling because Aaron told me that you're going to be calling, but I can't talk to you about emails. Now, as an investigator, anything investigator, meaning no political agenda, I'm thinking to myself, what's up with the emails? I wonder if the clue lies with the emails, you know? And so, I didn't talk to her about emails and we talked and then I asked if I could meet with her NDC because I was out of town and I talked to her and she said, yeah, meet me down by my death if she said I could talk better in person. And I have this all in the report. I don't have a report in front of me, but anyway, I met with her at her job. We met at a corner bakery here in DC, 17th Street and we talked and she was pretty forthcoming, but she said that the only thing about the job she could tell me is that Aaron, I mean, that Seth was having issues with two supervisors on the job and I said, okay, well, that's good information because, you know, that could be a link to solving the case. You know, you're having problems with a person, you know? So I said, well, what's the supervisor's name? She said, I can't give you that information. I said, why not? She said, well, I don't really know their names, but I was told not to talk about his job, anything pertaining to his job and I said, by who? She said, Aaron. Okay. So we left it alone. So that was two examples of the issue about the emails coming up and I've spoken with Joe and Aaron during the course of this time period, which again started in March of this year when I first started working for that. And each time we've had conversations, I'd bring up the possibility or the fact that in order to solve this case, regardless of what was the job, whether it was the job, whether it was a box street robbery, you know, whatever it was, it doesn't matter to me, let's find a bad guy. And I always say, I need to get more information, though, about his relationship with some of the jobs. Every time I say that, Aaron would just totally go off. I mean, literally, I told you, you know, be looking at the job, I've investigated it. And a few other things that was interesting. So for example, I asked Aaron, did the police department confiscate his computer? Because I wanted to know where the computer was. You know, if it's a murder, obviously, and they're going to go through his computer, he said, don't ask me anything about computers or emails. I said, but Aaron, we're trying to find the murderer. And there's a possibility that a link may be on the computer through email exchange, discussion, website, something. He said, no, he said, I have the computer, meaning him. I said, okay, well, can I take a look at it? I'll even come down there and be with you. I just want to go. He said, what are you looking for? I said anything that can indicate that maybe Seth was having problems with someone. No, I've already checked it. Don't worry about it. All right. So I got off of that. Then I said, cell phone. I understand from reading media reports that Seth had made several telephone calls the night of his murder before he was murdered to several people. And I got that information from Kelsey, a big girlfriend. I said, who has his cell phones now? He said, I don't know. I said, well, Kelsey tells me you have his cell phones. Well, I don't have the cell phone. I said, well, there's a police department to have the cell phone because there's information that he talks to the killer before he got killed. I don't know. He said, no, we won't worry about the cell phone. Okay. So who did he talk to that night? I said, can we gain, get access to his records, his AT&T records and just get a copy of the numbers that he dialed that night or that dialed him the night? No, we can't. So all right. So he wasn't obviously, I mean, literally he was pushing back on this whole idea of checking cell phones. And Seth went to a party at 10 o'clock that night of his death at 10 o'clock CN before he went to the bar where he was at, Joe Capone's bar. And he was there with some friends. This is just a good example as to the pushback I got from Aaron. Well, Kelsey told me about the party. Well, I hadn't heard about the party from anyone else. So I said, okay, I'm going to try to find out who was at that party and whether or not the police department interviewed people at that part who was at that party to maybe get some clues, right? And I mentioned this to Aaron and I mean, to Aaron, I said, Aaron, I understand stuff went to a party. He said, yes, I said, well, can I get the names of the person or people that gave that party so I can go talk to this? We need to talk to them about Seth died at four in the morning. I said, I know, but I'm thinking it could have been someone at the party. Maybe he had an interaction with, you know, Guy follows me. You know, a friend of a husband, so he goes, no, that didn't happen. And then again, I said, how do you know this? I'm telling you, right, it didn't happen. Now, all I want you to do is work on the box robbery theory. That's it. So that's what we are. And that's the frustration I have because if you really want the case off, if you really want the case off, then you have to let the investigators do this job. That hasn't been the case here. Now, it's a little bit different. And this is important with Joe. And Joe, I enjoy talking to Joe the father because he doesn't appear to have any dead in a gender. You know, I mean, he does, he's not, like for example, the computers. I didn't even know that Seth had two cell phones. Joe told me. Joe said, yeah, he had just bought another cell phone. I said, really? I said, had the other cell phone been activated? He said, you know what? I'm not sure. But Aaron should know because Aaron has the cell phone. And then that's when I asked Aaron about the second cell phone. And he said, no, I don't know what he's talking about. So real quickly, I'll give you the sort version, sort of a complete version of this. We have been working on trying to uncover information pertaining to the death of Seth Rich. Well, Fox News reporter, Miliya Zimmerman, had come across a witness, a person who was an informant, I'd say, an anonymous source who indicated that he knew for fact, without a doubt, then emailed reset from Seth's computer to Wicke-Leeks. Now, she notified me of this informants information and informed me that this individual is very credible. Okay, that's interesting. And this guy works as a federal investigator, maybe associated with the FBI. Now, this guy went saying it's true, then the family needs to know about this. And Fox News, you're going to go with that story and report that on Tuesday of this week. So immediately, when she notified me, Miliya, about this information, I said, well, you know, that kind of makes sense in a way, because with everybody pushing back on this email thing in the family, and they're so protective of the email, it leads me to think that perhaps there were some communication between Seth Rich and Wicke with. Now, that's it. Perhaps there were some communications based on the totality of everything that's been becraving at the point going out with this email and computer stuff. And now this guy's saying he knows four facts. So what did I do? I immediately caught Keith Nooster at the police department. So I know very well, and I didn't get him, but I tested my email. And I said, "See, I need to talk to you right away. I just learned some information, major information about the separate case, and it may be related to Wicke leaks and the Russian hacking thing. We need to talk as soon as possible." Keith Nooster emailed me back, "Ride, not a problem, but I want you to talk to my director of communication for the police department." Okay, I got those emails, by the way. So I immediately get an email from the director of communication from the police department, and I tell this guy, I said, "I need to talk to you." You know, I got this information. He said, "Okay, I'll call you at 12-known." He called me at 12-known, and I shared this information. I said, "Look, I just learned that there's an FBI agent or some former FBI agents who said he knows four facts that emails were sent from separate computer to Wicke leak." I said, "The police department needs to know about this because that may hold the key to solving the murder." The guy goes, "Really?" I said, "Yeah." And I said, "And the story is going to come out on Tuesday regarding this." You guys need to know about this because that may hold the clue to solving the murder. He goes, "Really?" I said, "Yeah." I said, "I don't know who this FBI informant is. I just learned of this before I flew." I said, "But I thought it was important that I get you this information, so you guys can look into it." He said, "Okay, well, thanks for sharing that with us." I said, "Okay, great." So I get a telephone call from the detective, the lead detective handling the case. And I tell him the exact same thing, and he said, "Okay, right. Well, let's meet." I said, "Okay, great. Let's meet at the Library of Congress on the sixth floor in the cafeteria." Now, this conversation took place on Friday, last Friday. We said, "Let's meet Monday on the sixth floor of the Library of Congress." That's a cafeteria up there. Library of Congress. Well, Monday rolled around, and I called him two or three times. He never called me back. And I thought that was strange because I was like, "Why isn't he calling me back?" But anyway, he didn't call me back because I wanted to talk about this new information we learned, especially before it hits the news media. But then I said, "Well, let me call Joel Rich and let him know because this is important. This could be a major, major break in the case." So I called Joel, and I said, "Joel, I wanted to call you and tell you about this new information five minutes as uncovered that I think could be a break in the case regarding email possibly being sent to Wikipedia." Joel said, "Stop right there. I know all about it." I said, "What do you do?" He said, "Yeah, he sent a Fox News report that called me this morning and told me about this." I said, "Okay, well, the story is going to hit tomorrow, but I think you need to know." And I said, "By the way, I call the police department and just tried to share the information with them." He said, "Okay." He said, "Well, what do you think we can do?" I said, "Well, let's wait until the story comes out and actually see what's in it." And then we'll go from there. He said, "Because don't you have a friend, Michelle's a go on a network for crime-wise daily who the rich family knows. Michelle's an investigator for one of these news stories, for one of these news networks." And I said, "Yeah, but let's not call Michelle. Let's wait until the story drops." He said, "Okay. Well, this was right around five o'clock on Monday. Well, then I got it. I get a phone call, or I said to text message to this reporter at Fox5DC, who I had been trying to get information from, she covered the story of Seth Rich's death. That's how I even came across this woman, Marina Morocco, is her name. She's been slamming me like crazy in the DC area on the news each and every day, calling me everything, but it's out of God. But anyways, well, I met face to face with Bella Cameron. He met with me over at my office down in DC. And nice guy, we talked a long time, but he kept telling me the entire conversation, "Bro, I can't tell you anything. I can't." I said, "Why?" He said, "Well, they want us to not say anything about this case and kind of like stand down." "Really?" I said, "Who?" He said, "Come on, man. I can't tell you anymore. You know that." He said, "You know, I'll be working over at T.P.B., which is the central cell block that for officers go when they screw up or whatever." So I said, "Okay, I hear you. I hear you. I mean, he said, "I don't want you to throw me under the bus." I said, "Della Cameron, I will not throw you under the bus. I'm not going to mention anything." He said, "Well, I can't tell you anything much right, but you know, that was pretty much where we left him." We talked, and I had it in the form of a report. He shared a number of things with me and I'll forward that on to you. So, very good conversation, but I was shocked that he even called me back or anything on Monday when we were supposed to meet him. So, anyway, the reporter met Marie-Mmarano or whatever. She met me over at a restaurant, and she said, "I was at a restaurant." She texted me and said, "Can I talk to you?" And I said, "Yeah." Because I had told her about this breaking news that Fox News Channel was going to go with the story the next day, and I wanted to see if she had heard about it. And she said, "She had heard about it, but she wanted to talk to me." So she met me over at the restaurant, and she said, "Can we get to an interview for All In Air Tonight?" And I said, "Let me check with Fox News producers." So I checked with Fox and they said, "No, we don't want her to go with this story." And I said, "Well, she tells me that she's only going to do it either. She's not going to talk about the case." Because I didn't have details about the case. So she's the local reporter. So she meets with me at the restaurant, and once she meets me outside the restaurant for a total of three minutes. And we're talking about this new information that's going to come out the next day. I didn't have any details. All I knew was that it was from an FBI agent, so it provided information that appears to be credible that emails were sent. And so she recorded and he sang that to her. But I told her, I said, "Marina, you can't go with this story because this is the Fox News story." She said, "Oh, I'm not going to go with it. It's just going to be a teaser." 10 o'clock at night when the news comes on, this is the top of the news show, and it's a close up breaking news. Not a teaser. And I'm like, "What?" And that's when Cal began for me, because she had me on. She quoted me as saying, "I was the first person, I'm in a first person position to see these emails and see this computer." And I never said that, but she's reporting this. But she's talking to me, and she's asking me a question. She's asking me, so there is an FBI agent that confirms, or that's credible, that says that emails were sent from SES computer to Wikipedia. She has, as she quotes me, she's been quoting me with part of what we talked about, not everything, just part of what we talked about in that three-minute interview. But I like the part that she quoted me and played the video on live one air was about 15 seconds of the three-minute interview. Oh, absolutely. Totally incomplete. Because when you hear me on the tape, on the video, it makes it sound like I'm in a first person position. But that's only because that's where she started the video. So what I'm telling her is that, think of it like this, I'm telling her we have information that emails were sent. And she said, and that's confirmed. I said, "Confirmed." And that ends confirmed. So that is absolutely true. But I didn't say, I saw this, I attributed it to the FBI agent. She didn't play that part of it. She didn't play that part of the video. So she made it seem like it was the first person deal that I'm saying, I saw this. But then, the end of the video, I say to her on camera and this air that we need to find out where the computers are so we can check into this. Because we don't know where the computers are. So when you hear that, you have to take yourself, if you don't know where the computers are, then how gives it that you could have seen the email. So she ran with the story. The story blew up. I emailed her, I texted her. I said, "Why did you go with this story when you wasn't supposed to?" And you didn't even get these details from me. But you made it sound like you did. And then, that's when everything started. I'm going to read it to you real quick. All right, here it is right here. Monday at 3.22. Well, actually, let's go back. Wednesday, May 10th. Hey, Rob, it's Marina. Are you in DC right now? I replied, "I'm on an airplane and then route back to Ray. No worries. Have a safe flight. Talk soon." Okay. Then I said, "Okay, got some new information on the rich case. We'll be breaking on Fox News Channel on Tuesday, meeting with Newsome on Friday. That's the Chief of Police. Nice, good work. Call tomorrow. Monday, 3.22 PM. The story will break tomorrow morning. Got confirmation that Rich did, in fact, then, impulse a wiki. That's from that FBI guy, right? She says, "Can you talk to us?" I replied, "Let me check with the Fox News Channel producer. Call the producer. Producer says, 'No, we don't want her to go with this story because this is our story.' And I said, 'Well, she said she's just going to do a teaser.' At that same time, Marina texts me just for local 10 C.M. We can tease to whatever show you'll be doing tomorrow, period, publicity. At 5.17, she texts me, "We are parked outside the Hyatt in our live truck." I was at a restaurant right outside, right down there by the line. So that's why she came down there. So I met this restaurant called Art and Soul, right across from the Hyatt. She says she's outside the restaurant. So, okay, I go out there for about three minutes and I tell her about this breaking news story that's going to come out tomorrow. So I shared that with Marina. Camera's rolling. But the camera's rolling, but I'm not knowing that this conversation is being recorded. And I'll just put an asterisk by that because I'm going to show you why I confronted her about that. And she said, "It doesn't matter. The camera was rolling. The camera was rolling." All right. That was an subsequent conversation. So in other words, guys, when I talked to her about this case, the camera was rolling, but it wasn't in an interview type thing where she had to cat me microphone up to my face. Do you understand what I mean? So, 950PM, this is after the story brings as a top breaking news story, exclusive, is how it was identified on 5.5. We had exclusive information. Now, this was supposed to be a tease, remember. So, I text her and say, "Fox News Channel is test. We went with the story before it's end." Oops. She replied, "The story has already blown up. This will only get created to the story. If Fox News Channel broke it, it would seem like conspiracy theories. Tomorrow will be huge for you guys. Can't wait." So, she decided that she was going to run with this story in her mind so that it could seem like a conspiracy theory for Fox News. That corroborates what I've been saying all along that I told her not to go with this story. Fox News, Matt, says, "The story aired as an exclusive story for Fox 5 DC when it wasn't." They didn't even that even investigated this thing. It was an extended best house she ran with it as an exclusive story. And then, like I said, she said, "This will only get created to the story. If Fox News Channel broke it, it would seem like conspiracy theories. Tomorrow will be huge for you guys. Can't
